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'Cause, well, since we're not in Florida, I have to make Rosh Hashana dinner.

So far: the chicken soup looks like it's coming together nicely. Lis and I decided that neither of us really likes eating dark meat, so we bought two chickens, took the white meat off and bagged it for later, and used the dark meat for soup. This, of course, means that we've got little butchered chicken bits boiling merrily away in the soup, rather than the whole chicken that we've done up until now. I'm interested to see how this works out.

On the other hand, the challah dough is completely not rising. Not even in the least. And the yeast is still good -- it proofed fine. I'm wondering if the dough is just too plain stiff and heavy to rise -- the poor little yeasties can't work up enough gas pressure to pump it up. Or maybe I managed to kill the yeasts. . .

It's a weird recipe -- I've made it before, and it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. The recipe really makes too much dough for our standing mixer to handle -- when I started smelling that wonderful burning insulation smell, I pulled the dough out and finished it up by hand, and it's insanely dense and heavy. I have no idea what's wrong with it this time.

I bought a two pound veal roast -- the kind that's rolled up and tied -- and I'm looking for really good recipes for that. I think I want to do some sort of breadcrumb/walnut/onion stuffing, unroll the veal, lay the stuffing on it, roll it back up, and re-tie it. But I dunno.

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Date: 2004-09-14 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greenlily.livejournal.com
Yay. I forgot that one of the reasons I like autumn is that it's time to start making soup again. Mmmmm soup. And homemade bread.

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Date: 2004-09-14 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steelwngs.livejournal.com
Here ya go. I was on the phone talking with my dad, after reading your post, and he gave me this one. Funny things italians keep on hand in the kitchen for recipes.


Ingredients:

1 Veal Loin (deboned) -- about 2 to 5 pounds
1/4 teaspoon Lemon Zest -- grated
1/4 teaspoon Rosemary -- dried
Salt and Pepper
1/2 pound minced Veal
1/2 pound minced Beef
1 Egg -- beaten
1/2 cup stale Bread
1 clove Garlic -- chopped
1 pinch Marjoram
1 pinch Nutmeg
Olive Oil
1 cup White Wine
1 cup Veal or Beef Stock


Directions:

Soak the bread in milk and squeeze out.
Lay the veal on your workspace and season it with the lemon zest, some of the rosemary, salt and pepper.
Combine the ground veal and beef with the beaten egg, bread, marjoram and nutmeg. Mix well.
Spread the stuffing on one side of the veal and roll up.
Tie lightly with butcher's twine.
Season the surface of the meat with the rest of the rosemary, salt and pepper and rub it with the olive oil.
Cook the roast in a pan that is just a little larger than the meat in a preheated 350o oven for 2 hours, basting very often with the wine and stock.

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Date: 2004-09-14 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mattblum.livejournal.com
That sounds really, really good. For other recipes, check out Epicurious, where you can just type "veal roast" in their search box.

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Date: 2004-09-14 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adrian-turtle.livejournal.com
When I could make challah, I used the recipe in The Enchanted Broccoli Forest, which gives the yeast a head-start. You mix the proofed yeast with about 1/3 of the flour and let it rise for an hour (2 hours in a trojan winter) before adding the other ingredients. I used a mix of all-purpose and whole wheat bread flour, and the whole wheat flour only went in after the head-start ("sponge") rising. Salt and oil will slow any yeast growth, and they can kill the yeast if it's just getting started. While dilute sugar makes yeast grow faster, concentrated sugar can slow it down or stop it, though this is more of a problem with coffee cake than with bread.

I miss being able to make challah. My ability to cope with pain is limited, and it's been a long time since I've found myself with any to spare at any of the times I thought called for baking challah. Or any real bread. It feels like a welcoming thing to do. Fortunately, the people I most want to welcome have similar buttons. Unfortunately, cookies or quickbreads, which I can occasionally manage, don't have the same emotional impact.

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Date: 2004-09-14 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janetmiles.livejournal.com
I don't mean to be rude, because I'm sure you've thought of this, but would a bread machine help? Or would that negate the "welcoming" aspect?

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