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Resolved: ROCKY II and RAMBO: FIRST BLOOD PART 2 are the first Rocky and Rambo movies; ROCKY and FIRST BLOOD aren't part of the series.

Because the Rocky series is perceived to be about a tough American icon, and Rambo is perceived to be about an all-American super-soldier. And that's not what ROCKY or FIRST BLOOD are.

Discuss, if you like.

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Date: 2015-08-12 05:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mangosteen
Another take on ROCKY.

ROCKY *is* the first movie in the series.
ROCKY II-V are a 15 minute montage at the beginning of ROCKY BALBOA.

In this case, the ROCKY series is about an American icon who everyone poured their hopes and dreams into, and he came out the other side broken and bruised, with one small chance to actually be his own man.

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Date: 2015-08-12 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com
How much editing would it take to make Aliens all be a bad dream Ripley had between two movies that actually happened ?
Edited Date: 2015-08-12 07:57 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-08-12 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
ALIENS is actually my favorite of the movies. ALIEN3 is my least-favorite.

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Date: 2015-08-13 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com
I am aware that I am greatly outnumbered by people who have opinions closer to yours.

To me, Alien is a movie about a strong, competent professional woman facing a genuinely creepy and genuinely alien predator, and Aliens is about putting her back in a conventional box by giving her a gratuitous nuclear family, with repulsively blatant heartstring pulling, opposed by an enemy whose principal characteristic is fecundity, at which point it becomes hard not to see subtext in the aliens being black. Killing off said nuclear family as the start of the third movie is something I admire tremendously.
Edited Date: 2015-08-13 02:06 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2015-08-13 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I hadn't ever considered it that way. I don't think I agree with you, but I definitely think that's interesting.

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Date: 2015-08-12 10:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bugsybanana.livejournal.com
Intriguing, but I love the original ROCKY, even if the Sexism Fairy has gotten to it somewhat. I never bothered with the ones after II.

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Date: 2015-08-12 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I love the original ROCKY, too, and am not much interested in the others. Although I've heard ROCKY BALBOA was written for fans of ROCKY.

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