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I bet that Romney aide was trying to talk about "Anglo-American heritage", because that's a real thing that people say, and it goes along with the term "special relationship between England and the United States."

And it just came out as "Anglo-Saxon heritage", because the aide had one of those brain-frotzes where your brain takes the beginning of a term, and autofills the rest of the term without consulting you, and "Anglo-Saxon" is the term that comes in before (heck, on Google, it's 27 million hits for "Anglo-American" and 50.5 million for "Anglo-Saxon", so I bet the aide's brain just autofilled it wrong.)

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Date: 2012-07-26 11:43 am (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
You may well be true, but it's still problematic: he's still saying "the white guy would be a better president than the black guy because being white means he understands Britain better." Not because a hypothetical candidate went to graduate school there, or taught British history or literature, or has a grandmother from there. Because he's white.

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Date: 2012-07-26 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zachkessin.livejournal.com
From what I gather Barak Obama has as many "Anglo-Saxon's" on his family tree as Mitt Romney does

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Date: 2012-07-26 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com
Not that I care two hoots, but I thought Obama's mother's ancestors were Irish? There was that great song in the 2008 campaign.

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Date: 2012-07-26 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zachkessin.livejournal.com
I am not sure, I expect that they are like many Americans a mix of a bunch of groups. I agree it doesn't really matter

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Date: 2012-07-26 02:14 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
He has some Irish ancestry—when he visited Ireland he stopped off in the village that one of them emigrated from.

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Date: 2012-07-26 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] embryomystic.livejournal.com
Some of them, but not all of them. Many white Americans have an Irish ancestor they can point to without being 'Irish-American', per se.

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Date: 2012-07-26 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I was under the impression that the Irish are extremely NOT Anglo-anything.

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Date: 2012-07-26 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com
The Irish have integrated many successive waves of invaders and made them "more Irish than the Irish themselves" (which our teacher assured us was a catchphrase in the original Irish).

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Date: 2012-07-26 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] embryomystic.livejournal.com
Níos Gaelaí ná na Gaeil iad féin. More Gaelic than the Gaels themselves. I think the original phrase is in Latin, though. Hiberniores Hibernis ipsis?

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Date: 2012-07-26 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I'm not convinced about the "because he's white" part. I mean, I'm not discounting it -- it's certainly possible -- but I see other possibilities, too. Not to get all Will Shetterly about it, but it COULD actually be a class thing -- Mitt understands the people who matter in England better than Barack, because he's rich, and always has been. Obama grew up poor -- how could he really understand the IMPORTANT people?

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Date: 2012-07-26 12:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yendi
As an OTM listener, I assume you caught the interview a few weeks back with the guy talking about the silliness of focusing on gaffes instead of issues?

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Date: 2012-07-26 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] metahacker.livejournal.com
If you view gaffes as Freudian slips that reveal how someone "really" thinks, then they're important to analyze.

If you view gaffes as the verbal equivalent of tripping over a curb, then not so much.

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Date: 2012-07-26 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com
To use an anglo sort of phrase, are you taking the piss?

If you're sincere, I have to disagree. I'm pretty sure Sununu said what he meant, if not what he intended to say.

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Date: 2012-07-26 03:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I don't personally think that THAT quote was supposed to be racist.  I make no observations one way or the other on whether the speaker has made racist comments on any other occasion, as I don't know.

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Date: 2012-07-26 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
Oh -- one further comment: if I was working for the Romney campaign, even if my explanation ISN'T what actually happened, it's still the explanation I'd use. ;)

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Date: 2012-07-26 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
/bemused-outsider here/

I agree; at least it's most likely. I'd apply the same to Obama's "you didn't build that." Obama's comment overall made sense, he just accidentally stuck in the phrase "If you have a business" in a paragraph about infrastructure.

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