Social justice musing. . .

[xiphias]

I wonder how Connecticut declaring same-sex marriage to be legal is going to affect California's Prop 8. Maybe more people in CA are going to realize that this is basically becoming mainstream?

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[ron_newman]

The Republican governor of CT has basically said, "Well, I didn't agree with that, but whatever, it's the law now".

[lietya.livejournal.com]

I certainly hope so!

[quietann.livejournal.com]

That could go either way. Apparently, the anti forces in CA have picked up a lot of steam recently, and this might make them even more determined to fight "evil." Even the Democrats' get out the vote efforts there could hurt, since they're focused on the Black and Latino communities, who tend to be antis.

OTOH, yes. If CT, which is far less liberal than MA, can come to their senses, it could help in CA.

In better news, the US Supreme Court recently turned down the case of the parents from Lexington who were upset that their little kids had gay-friendly books in their classroom...

[browngirl.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure about mainstream yet, what with 3 vs, what is it, 40-odd states with bans?

But here's hoping.

[theclamsman.livejournal.com]

I don't think conservatives in California (and they do exist) give a shit what happens in Connecticut; when you hear "beat of a different drum", think Californians. West Coast thinking differs vastly from East Coast thinking in both of the "liberal" and "conservative" camps...and outside of the Bay Area and L.A. you have a LOT of conservatives to deal with. San Diego (conservative white people...and Mexicans) and Orange County (rich conservative white people) are gonna go for McCain (Chelle lived there her entire formative years and knows the political climate).

I see ads for Vote No on Prop 8 all the time; I saw a Vote Yes just once, so it's possible that the Vote Yes people 1) can't raise enough money to run the ads more often OR 2) think they don't need to.

[holyhippie]

I see a depressing number of "Yes on 8" signs around where I live. Just one of the places where a liberal guy feels like a fish out of water in California.

I agree with theclamsman that the conservative Californians, who may well make this proposition succeed, care in the least about Connecticut. This issue is just one of those "moral values" issues that make people with thinking stuck in a older world too uncomfortable.

Personally, I think that giving same sex couples the right to marry is moral, promotes family values, and strengthens communities. I'll be voting "NO" on 8.

[nextian.livejournal.com]

I would guess that they know, and they've always known, that it's basically becoming mainstream. They think it's Satanic, but common -- it's an attack on them, e.g. they are the marginalized and the gay people are the Force of Darkness Majority. When the mayor of San Francisco introduces the legislation, there may be some mumbling about wacky San Fran but it's minimized by the incredible and repeated legitimation gay marriage has gotten from the majority of voices in power in the state.

It's this perception of the majority as a minority that is so painful to watch because it is just totally symptomatic of thinking here ...

[ookpik.livejournal.com]

Yes, this. The fact that it's becoming mainstream only makes the religious right feel more threatened: OMG those people are gaining ground! I hope that there will be enough sane people--by which I mean those who support equal marriage rights and those who just don't feel threatened--to overrule the scared and the hateful, but we'll see.