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I just had a math problem pop into my head, which, as I think about it, may explain something about racial profiling, prejudice, and that sort of thing.

Or it may not; I dunno.

Let's say that you have a city which is populated by two kinds of people -- polka-dotted people and plaid people. The plaid people are generally economically disadvantaged, and are a poor minority population, and are distrusted by the majority.

The plaids are only 10% of the population. But they have VASTLY more criminal behavior in their community.

In fact, 80% of Plaid people engage in criminal activity.

Only 20% of Polka-dotted people do.

So, a liquor store is robbed.

Knowing absolutely nothing else but this information, is it statistically more likely that a Polka-dotted person or a Plaid person did it? What are the odds either way?

If you pick up a random Plaid person off the street nearby, what are the odds that you can get SOME kind of dirt on them, whether or not they actually committed THIS crime? What if you pick up a random Polka-dotted person?

(Note that all percentages have been made up and the numbers are not intended to reflect any kind of actual reality -- the numbers are chosen just to make the math easy. In real life, the percentages between different populations are a lot closer, and closer still if our criminal justice system treated white-collar crime the same as "blue-collar-crime." But there are, nonetheless, statistical differences which can be examined.)

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Date: 2006-12-11 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerrymurray.livejournal.com
Interesting choice of wording though. If 80% of a minority is engaged in criminal actvity, and if the police "profiled" said minority...would it truly be racist? Or would it be "going with the numbers?"

In Baltimore City, whites are the minority. Yet the overwhelmingly numbers of crimes comitted, either murder, drug related robbery etc are by blacks. Is it racist to state that in Baltimore city blacks commit more of the crimes?

Personally, I am sick of the race card being played out. We read it every day in the paper and see it on the news.

Thats just my opinion.

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Date: 2006-12-11 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
I didn't say whether profiling was a good or a bad thing. I just threw out some numbers to see in what circumstances it might make sense. Or not.

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Date: 2006-12-11 05:31 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2006-12-12 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com
What about the innocent 20%? Or is it just their fault for having chosen to be plaid?

Edited for clarity

Date: 2006-12-12 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com
When I was in college, I and my roommate, who are of different races, used to joke that we should go to a department store; one of us would be followed around by the salespeople and the other one would steal stuff. Of course we never did, but considering the difference in scrutiny afforded two similar girls whose main differing variable was race, the joke was bitterly apropos.

Personally, I'm sick of people assuming they know how I'm going to act based on how other people of my skin color act. What race do I identify as, based on that statement?

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