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[This isn't a humor post, or a political post. This is a history/theology geeking post. Just so's y'all know what to expect.]

First off, as you all know, the Number of the Beast is "616", not "666" -- the whole "666" thing is a transcription error. The earliest versions of the Book of Revelations have "616".

Second, as you all know, in Hebrew, every letter also has an associated numerical value, and Hebrew numerology is based around the numerical values of words.

Hebrew LetterValueNameEnglish Approximation of Sound
א1AlephSilent
ב2BetB or V
ג3GimmelG (historically, also could sound as j)
ד4DaletD (historically, could also sound as djz)
ה5HayH
ו6VavV, or oo, or oh (historically, sounded as "w", "oo", or "oh", and was called "waw")
ז7ZayinZ
ח8Chetkh (as in "Bach")
ט9TetT
י10YodY
כ20KafK or kh
ל30LamedL
מ40MemM
נ50NunN
ס60SamekhS
ע70AyinSilent, basically
פ80PayP or F
צ90Tzadets, as in "pizza"
ק100KufK or Q (a little more gutteral than K)
ר200ReshR, more or less
ש300ShinSh or S
ת400TavT, T or S in some dialects, T or Th historically


As an aside, I find it interesting that, historically, the following letters had two sounds:
Bet, B and V (no English equivalent of which I know)
Gimmel, G and J (the English letter "g" maintains both sounds)
Dalet, D and djz as in the French "gendarme" (no English equivalent that I know of)
Kof, K and Kh
Pay, P and Ph
Shin, S and Sh
Tav, T and Th

So, a fair number of the Hebrew two-sound letters made it into English. . .

Anyway, that's not what I'm posting about.

The Book of Revelations is clear that "616" refers to a person's name. So you need to find a name, or name and title, which adds up to 616.

How about קסר נרו ? That's 50+200+6 + 100+60+200 = 616. What are the English equivalents of those letters? NRV QSR. Of course, that "V" may be a "W", a "U" or an "O", and we need to add vowels.

NRO QSR. NeRO CaeSaR.

Hard to argue with that one. Emperor Nero pretty much deserved the title of "the Beast", and, for that matter, was the Emperor when the Book of Revelations was written.

So, my point is to just plain relax about the Book of Revelations. We KNOW what the "number of the Beast" is, and who it refers to, and why. It's not a great End-Times Mystery or anything.

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Date: 2006-06-07 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] worldmage.livejournal.com
I've known that the Book of the Revelation of St. John is one big-ass Qabalistic cipher for about 5 years now, but I never knew that bit about Nero. Fascinating.

BTW, 'ayin isn't necessarily silent. In standard Hebrew it's a voiced pharyngeal fricative (ʕ in IPA), but Jews of European descent usually pronounce it as a glottal stop before a vowel.

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Date: 2006-06-07 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com
That's why I listed it as "silent, basically." However, Jews of European descent, that is, Ashkenazic Jews, do use it as a simple silent letter, which is also how it is used in modern Israeli Hebrew. Sephardic Jews tend to pronounce it as a semiglottal stop, or simply have it gutteralize the vowel. The voiced pharyngeal fricative is only used by Yemini Jews, although it's likely to be close to how it was used originally, and the cognate to 'ayin in Arabic is that way.

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Date: 2006-06-07 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelfstein.livejournal.com
Since I don't have a clue, did or do the Ethiopian Jews still speak Hebrew? If so, how would they pronounce the silent letter?
Interesting subject.

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Date: 2006-06-07 12:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sethg
The Ethiopian Jews use Ge'ez for liturgical purposes, not Hebrew.

The Yemenite Jews are believed to have the closest approximation of ancient Hebrew pronounciation (they were so shunned by their neighbors that they didn't have much chance for their Hebrew to be corrupted).

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Date: 2006-06-08 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelfstein.livejournal.com
Thank you, the wikipedia info was interesting. I like to learn something new every day.

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