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My spoiler-rific thoughts on THE AVENGERS
I've been writing stuff in the comments of other people's LJ posts, so I figured I'd just copy stuff down here.
Spoilers ahoy:
People have been blue-sky speculating that Coulson could be made into Vision. . . that's not based on any evidence or rumors, just people going "what if . . . ?"
I'm not much of a comics fan, so Lis had to explain to me why "To attack the humans is to court death!" was a cool line. For those of you who are like me, Thanos's motivation is that he's got a crush on the Marvel version of the personification of Death (who is significantly less adorable than the DC/Neil Gaiman version.)
I've read that, when Hulk goes all Droopy Dog/Peter Puppy on Loki, he says, "Puny god." Nobody I know has ever heard this line, however, since they, and the rest of the audience, have been laughing too hard.
During the bit where they are showing different news footage of the aftermath, one of the screens shows people putting letters, and flowers, and stuff, up on a memorial wall. I loved that, because it meant that innocent people actually DIED during the battle, which meant that, had the Avengers NOT been there, MORE people would have died, which meant that what they did actually mattered. They showed that even victory had a cost, which meant that there was stuff actually at stake.
I felt that they used exactly the right amount of Hulk. I think that much more of the big green guy would have been too much -- I think that it's easy for him to get boring and over-used. So having the actual character be Banner, not Hulk? Good move.
Proposed for debate: great superhero movies require great villains. Hiddleston's Loki counts. So does Alfred Molina's Doc Ock. I've not seen THE DARK KNIGHT yet, although I want to, but I'm assured that Heath Ledger's Joker definitely counts.
Loki and Doc Ock are both tragic figures, who have some genuinely sympathetic characteristics. From what I've been told, Ledger's Joker really, really doesn't, so that's not a universal.
Spoilers ahoy:
People have been blue-sky speculating that Coulson could be made into Vision. . . that's not based on any evidence or rumors, just people going "what if . . . ?"
I'm not much of a comics fan, so Lis had to explain to me why "To attack the humans is to court death!" was a cool line. For those of you who are like me, Thanos's motivation is that he's got a crush on the Marvel version of the personification of Death (who is significantly less adorable than the DC/Neil Gaiman version.)
I've read that, when Hulk goes all Droopy Dog/Peter Puppy on Loki, he says, "Puny god." Nobody I know has ever heard this line, however, since they, and the rest of the audience, have been laughing too hard.
During the bit where they are showing different news footage of the aftermath, one of the screens shows people putting letters, and flowers, and stuff, up on a memorial wall. I loved that, because it meant that innocent people actually DIED during the battle, which meant that, had the Avengers NOT been there, MORE people would have died, which meant that what they did actually mattered. They showed that even victory had a cost, which meant that there was stuff actually at stake.
I felt that they used exactly the right amount of Hulk. I think that much more of the big green guy would have been too much -- I think that it's easy for him to get boring and over-used. So having the actual character be Banner, not Hulk? Good move.
Proposed for debate: great superhero movies require great villains. Hiddleston's Loki counts. So does Alfred Molina's Doc Ock. I've not seen THE DARK KNIGHT yet, although I want to, but I'm assured that Heath Ledger's Joker definitely counts.
Loki and Doc Ock are both tragic figures, who have some genuinely sympathetic characteristics. From what I've been told, Ledger's Joker really, really doesn't, so that's not a universal.
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