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xiphias ([personal profile] xiphias) wrote2010-03-07 09:46 pm
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In this instance, I'm willing to eat my words. Delicious, yummy words.

In the past, I've made the claim that there are only two types of vodka: cheap vodka, and not-cheap vodka. And that one bad vodka was basically indistinguishable from any other bad vodka. And that the differences between brands of good vodkas were . . . "subtle". That is to say, pretty darn close to nonexistent.

As part of a certification class I'm taking to hone my skills, I've been doing some side-by-side tastings of different brands, and, okay, when you're doing very careful side-by-side tastings, you CAN tell SOME differences. I mean, I can tell that Skyy has a little more body than Svedka, for instance -- when I'm comparing them side-by-side. If you handed me a shot of vodka blind and asked me to tell you which one it was, I really doubt I could. This is very different than, say, single-malt Scotch. A Macallan and a Talisker -- you'd have to have had your taste buds shot off in the War to be unable to tell them apart. (Hint: the one in which you can smell the smoke from across the room is the Talisker.) But vodka, the differences are small, and fundamentally, don't really make any practical difference. Once you throw something through a column still five times, and follow it up with a triple filtration process, it's gonna taste pretty much exactly like anything else that you throw through a column still five times and triple-filter.

That's what I'd have said across the board before yesterday. When I tasted, and then bought a bottle of, Karlsson's Gold vodka. Which is the first thing which I've had that says "vodka" on the label that actually TASTES like something. It's a potato vodka that smells like, and TASTES like, potatoes.

Obviously, you can't use it the way you would use other vodkas. I mean, sure, if you LIKE potato-orange-juice, feel free to make a Screwdriver with it. But, really . . . this actually has FLAVOR, so you have to think about that when you're making stuff with it.

The folks I bought it from said that they'd had a Bloody Mary made with the stuff, and that was good, but that the main thing they did with it was to drink it straight, or cut with water. But that you could also do infusions with it -- but basically, based around "potato". Apparently, infusing dill in it is great, black pepper goes well.

If I didn't keep kosher at home, I'd be tempted to do a bacon fat wash with it. I'm still tempted to try a sour cream fat wash.

Because it is a potato vodka that tastes like potato.

[identity profile] wcg.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder how it would taste mixed with consume? Sort of a beef and potato thing...

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
I would suspect it would be not at all bad. It definitely wants to go in the "savory/umami" direction.

Actually, this is a vodka that I'd not be embarrassed to mix with a well-chosen vermouth and call a "martini". I could see something like 2 parts Karlsson's, 2 parts Hendrick's Gin, and 1 part the RIGHT brand of vermouth -- maybe Noily Pratt, maybe Dolin, probably not Martini & Rossi.

[identity profile] nancylebov.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Would onion be too weird?

[identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Vodka martini! With cocktail onions!

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Not at all weird.

[identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Mmmm... sour cream cocktails... Perfect for that Latkes & Vodkas party someplace like GesherCity's been known to throw for Chanukah!

Chive? Rosemary, for sure...

[identity profile] chanaleh.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and rim it with Bacon Salt -- that stuff actually *is* kosher!

[identity profile] mbarr.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
I have to let you try 44 North vodka- huckleberry infused. (potato, but not so that you can tell.)

It's one of the few that are really good to drink straight, iced.

[identity profile] jim-p.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
On the other end of the purity scale: I saw the Mythbusters where they tested the cheap-vodka-through-the-brita-filter myth. They then brought in an expert to judge them. One thing I wish they'd done would be to create a "perfect vodka" by cutting Everclear with distilled water to 80 proof. Has anyone actually done this in a vodka tasting?

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Everclear isn't necessarily COMPLETELY pure. But it's as pure as most vodkas. I don't know that I'd assume that it'd be any "purer" than any other vodka, but I'd assume it'd be about as good as any of the high-end ones. I'll try it later today and get back to you -- I've got some grain alcohol downstairs. It's a different brand, but I'd THINK it'd be equivalent.
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[personal profile] goljerp 2010-03-08 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, the things you subject yourself to... FOR SCIENCE!

[identity profile] tylik.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
When you say potato, do you mean cooked potato or raw potato? Because Chopin tasted really remarkably of raw potato, to me.

...not really my idea of fun, but I could imagine it might go well with smoked salmon, capers and onions.

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Somewhere in between, actually. Sort of par-boiled new potatoes.

[identity profile] ellettra.livejournal.com 2010-03-08 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Y.U.M!!! I bet the dill infusion would be magnificent.

[identity profile] 403.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I vote for trying a fat wash with salmon fat and a good cheddar cheese.

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2010-03-09 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Does salmon even HAVE fat in a form usable for a fat wash?

[identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Salmon is a quite fatty fish, but I don't know how fatty a meat needs to be to make a fat wash practical.

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's not so much the amount of fat I'm thinking about -- it's the form. The fat in salmon appears to be completely incorporated into the muscle tissue, rather than having significant fat deposits. In order to make a fat wash work, the fat has to be, in some sense, renderable. I'm not sure that you could render the fat in salmon.

[identity profile] 403.livejournal.com 2010-03-11 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I was planning to try poaching a piece of salmon to see if I could extract some of the fat, but getting to the grocery while the fish counter is open seems to be beyond me this week. If I manage to do the experiment myself, I'll post another reply here.