That was the gist of the most coherent part of the argument from the young men I chatted with on the train today. (I opened with a very friendly "I hear you two are talking politics; I'm from outside of California and I was hoping you could explain this whole Prop 8 vote to me".) One of them basically said that being gay was a choice, and he wasn't going to shout at people for making that choice, because that was wrong and unproductive, but he felt it was not the right choice, and he didn't think the law should condone something that was not right.
He also said that Prop 8 was supposed to legalize same-sex marriage, that legalized same-sex marriage would force pastors to marry same-sex couples even if they didn't want to, that it would lead to teaching children that sinful things were okay, that it's not discrimination if it's against a choice rather than something you can't help like being black or disabled, that a friend of his is gay and he's cool with it, that he told off another friend of his who's a gay-basher, and that within twenty years California would legalize same-sex marriage (a statement that didn't seem to bother him much). We chatted for most of two hours. On the whole, I left the conversation feeling rather optimistic.
EDIT: Oh, and there was a bit about how homosexuality was one of the signs of the End Times, and legally condoning it would hasten Armageddon.
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Date: 2008-11-06 10:27 am (UTC)He also said that Prop 8 was supposed to legalize same-sex marriage, that legalized same-sex marriage would force pastors to marry same-sex couples even if they didn't want to, that it would lead to teaching children that sinful things were okay, that it's not discrimination if it's against a choice rather than something you can't help like being black or disabled, that a friend of his is gay and he's cool with it, that he told off another friend of his who's a gay-basher, and that within twenty years California would legalize same-sex marriage (a statement that didn't seem to bother him much). We chatted for most of two hours. On the whole, I left the conversation feeling rather optimistic.
EDIT: Oh, and there was a bit about how homosexuality was one of the signs of the End Times, and legally condoning it would hasten Armageddon.