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xiphias ([personal profile] xiphias) wrote2008-10-22 05:54 pm
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How about this for a rule:

If you display a Confederate flag, you're not allowed to call someone else un-American.

[identity profile] theclamsman.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)

Your "nope" is tantamount to sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "LA LA LA LA LA". Very puerile.

Here's an article with I THINK it's the same African American dude profiled in Bullshit!:

http://ww2.volunteertv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3542863

So are you saying that Black Confederates were traitors?

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams012600.asp

[identity profile] sinboy.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Technically, they weren't traitors to the US, because they weren't really citizens. But there were black people in the US during the civil war who owned slaves. And if they didn't why fight for a side that maintained that it was OK to own slaves?

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2008-10-23 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Both sides maintained it was OK to own slaves.

[identity profile] danceboy.livejournal.com 2008-10-24 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that I disagree. Both sides maintained that it was legal, and that the federal government had no legal right to change that (hence the Emancipation Proclamation did not free slaves in the Union). But Lincoln was not exactly quiet about how it was not OK.
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[identity profile] nextian.livejournal.com 2008-10-22 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean -- literally -- yes. They were traitors to the United States of America. Like. Secession is high on the list of traitorous activities. That's, um, that's why we had that war. Besides the obvious and horrifying logic behind the war, the CSA's whole point was that they were not, and did not want to be, the USA.

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2008-10-23 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I am.