You wrote The Book of Revelations is clear that "616" refers to a person's name. So you need to find a name, or name and title, which adds up to 616.
So we're looking for some name/title whose Gematria is 616. So far, so good.
How about קסר נרו ? That's 50+200+6 + 100+60+200 = 616. What are the English equivalents of those letters? NRV QSR. Of course, that "V" may be a "W", a "U" or an "O", and we need to add vowels.
NRO QSR. NeRO CaeSaR.
Hard to argue with that one. Emperor Nero pretty much deserved the title of "the Beast", and, for that matter, was the Emperor when the Book of Revelations was written.
So we have a good candidate... if that's how CAESAR was spelled in Hebrew at the time. In later discussion, kahnman has said that it was spelled that way, in this context, so we have our case.
But I didn't know that before tonight's login, and I took what you just said above -- That's how it was spelled. It's pretty clear that that was the intended meaning by the author. -- as begging the question (in the original sense): arguing in a circle by bringing in as evidence the point one is trying to prove.
Anyway, I didn't mean to get into an argument, or start one.
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Date: 2006-06-08 01:08 am (UTC)The Book of Revelations is clear that "616" refers to a person's name. So you need to find a name, or name and title, which adds up to 616.
So we're looking for some name/title whose Gematria is 616. So far, so good.
How about קסר נרו ? That's 50+200+6 + 100+60+200 = 616. What are the English equivalents of those letters? NRV QSR. Of course, that "V" may be a "W", a "U" or an "O", and we need to add vowels.
NRO QSR. NeRO CaeSaR.
Hard to argue with that one. Emperor Nero pretty much deserved the title of "the Beast", and, for that matter, was the Emperor when the Book of Revelations was written.
So we have a good candidate... if that's how CAESAR was spelled in Hebrew at the time. In later discussion,
But I didn't know that before tonight's login, and I took what you just said above -- That's how it was spelled. It's pretty clear that that was the intended meaning by the author. -- as begging the question (in the original sense): arguing in a circle by bringing in as evidence the point one is trying to prove.
Anyway, I didn't mean to get into an argument, or start one.Thanks for all of this.