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xiphias ([personal profile] xiphias) wrote2007-09-30 02:06 pm
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I yelled at my class today

And then lectured them about lashon ha-ra.

I feel vaguely guilty about yelling and lecturing, but I'd feel a lot worse if I hadn't taken some action about students hurting each other's feelings.

I just don't know if I handled it right. One student wrote something that could be construed as hurtful about another student in zir notebook. A second student looked over zir shoulder, read it, and called the student about which it was about over to also see it, who saw it, grabbed the page of the notebook, and crumpled it up. Only the last part of this was obvious, so I yelled at the third student. Who was more upset by this than zie usually is when I yell at zir, so I knew that something else was up, and found out the rest of the story.

I told them that all three of them had done things wrong, but that they weren't of the same magnitude. I said that writing hurtful things in one's own notebook is bad, but that, as it wasn't intended to be seen by anyone, and therefore wasn't intended to hurt anyone, that is mitigating. So it's bad, but not SO bad. I said that grabbing someone else's notebook and crumpling the page was absolutely unacceptable. But that the person who had done the worst thing was the second student. Because that was lashon ha-ra.

And I lectured them about that. And how we, in the classroom, are a community, and lashon ha-ra damages communities. You don't have to LIKE everyone in your community, but you ARE a community. And avoiding lashon ha-ra is one of the ways you preserve communities.

The three students looked abashed and ashamed at their actions, and the rest of the class looked intent and somewhat worried. And at the end of the lecture, I asked if we were all willing to, in a sense, pretend that this whole situation hadn't happened. That, to repair our community, we had to forgive each other, which, in this case, would mean trying to remember the lessons, but forgetting the incident as much as we could.

They all agreed that they would like to move past the whole thing and pretend it never happened. I did try to be certain that all of them knew that, if they DIDN'T feel comfortable moving on, we could still work on it, but they were all embarrassed by it and wanted to just have it over and gone, so we did.

I still don't know if I did the right thing. I think I did an okay thing, but I don't know if I was right.

It's hard to know if one was fair. It's hard to know if one was correct.

Was I right that crumpling up the page was more wrong that writing the page? Was I right that calling attention to the page was more wrong than either writing it, or destroying it? I don't really know. I THINK I was at least close enough to right, but I'm not certain, and am still feeling guilty and unsettled. But I would feel MORE guilty and unsettled if I HADN'T done something like that. I'm responsible, in part, for my kids' moral and ethical development, and for their emotional health.

[identity profile] fibro-witch.livejournal.com 2007-09-30 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Speaking as a pagan, I think you handled it properly. You talked about how a problem between just a few people could cause the destruction of the entire community.

I would say the first student did a wrong to the third student by writing down something hurtful. If the first student did not want anyone to know what was thought of the third student, it should not have been written down. The second student increased the wrong to the third student by making the student aware of the hurtful comment.

As the subject of the hurtful comment the third student had the right to do with the paper what ever they wished. I would have allowed student number three to destroy the paper, or to choose someone else to dispose of it.

Now how do you teach this lesson to adults?

[identity profile] micheinnz.livejournal.com 2007-09-30 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
How does that go along with the idea that the paper is the first student's property, and therefore their own to destroy or not destroy? Personally I think the third student also did a wrong thing by destroying someone else's property. In the situation where the paper had not yet been destroyed, I'd have encouraged the first student to erase the writing (if they could), destroy the paper themselves, or tear it out of the book and give it to the third student to dispose of. In the end, though, it's their property and their decision.

(And xiphias, I think you did good.)

[identity profile] xiphias.livejournal.com 2007-09-30 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
As it turned out, as part of making things right, the first student volunteered to destroy the page zirself. Which neatly sidesteps the problem of who has the right to destroy it or not, solved the problem, and was a gesture that zie could do to help fix the situation.